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<p>我认为这是现在少数的、能发觉评论区问题的人。当时的评论区近乎都是国内的账户评论「国内就不累了吗」或者「这才哪到哪儿，国内高中更累」这样的发言。前者更类似于 Whataboutism，后者则明显就是比烂。</p></div><div class="visually-hidden"><a class="p-category" href="../categories/%E4%B8%AA%E4%BA%BA%E9%9A%8F%E6%83%B3/">个人随想</a><a class="p-category" href="../tags/%E4%BA%92%E8%81%94%E7%BD%91/">互联网</a><a class="p-category" href="../tags/%E9%80%BB%E8%BE%91%E5%AD%A6/">逻辑学</a><a class="p-category" href="../tags/%E5%BF%83%E7%90%86%E5%AD%A6/">心理学</a></div><h1 class="post-title p-name">What About…… 和比烂</h1><div class="post-info"><time class="post-date dt-published" datetime="2025-11-18T05:24:41.000Z">11/18/2025</time><time class="dt-updated visually-hidden" datetime="2026-02-09T17:16:55.009Z"></time></div><div class="post-content e-content"><html><head></head><body><p>我在网上冲浪时刷到一个吐槽美国学校作业多的帖子，发现了一个评论：<em>为什么大家什么都要和国内比？为什么要比较彼此谁更不幸呢？</em></p>
<p>我认为这是现在少数的、能发觉评论区问题的人。当时的评论区近乎都是国内的账户评论「国内就不累了吗」或者「这才哪到哪儿，国内高中更累」这样的发言。前者更类似于 Whataboutism，后者则明显就是比烂。</p>
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<p>Whataboutism（那…… 又怎么说）是一种常见的逻辑谬误。当一方提出 A 领域的问题时，另一方在不喜欢对方的观点的情况下，不就此回应、<strong>反而抛出了 B 领域的另一个问题来反击或者转移话题</strong>：<em>你这样说是不是代表着你觉得这个另一个主体不 xxx？</em> 这种观点表述在关于外国的帖子，尤其是吐槽和抱怨的帖子下比比皆是，动机因人而异，但大抵可归为两类：</p>
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<li>内心更相信外国的月亮更圆，因此不信任他人对外国的评价</li>
<li>感觉被冒犯到了，所以触发了防御心理</li>
</ul>
<p>无论初衷如何，其结果往往是 <strong>模糊了焦点，让理性的比较和就事论事的讨论无法展开</strong>。</p>
<p>我遇到过不少类似的情况。当我提出美国社会某些制度的弊端时，对方总是会立刻将中国的情况拉出来作为「反驳」，好似他们根本无法意识到，复杂的国家比较根本就不是非黑即白的优劣判断，而是各有侧重的 AB 级 —— 一个多了这个但缺少了那个，一个多了那个但缺少了这个。</p>
<p>比如，我说「美国很多城市的公共交通太差了，晚上出门没有车简直寸步难行。」那么一条经典的 Whataboutism 回复就会是：「呵呵，那你是不了解国内小县城，那里连公交都没有，你怎么不说？美国有地铁公交你就知足吧！」</p>
<p>你看，我的原意是讨论「美国某城市公交系统不便」，这是问题 A，但回复者却将话题强行转移到了「中国小县城公交匮乏」，也就是问题 B 上。他预设的立场是「我在通过贬低美国来抬高中国」，并通过引入一个更不堪的例子，试图证明我的抱怨是「无病呻吟」或是「别有用心」。</p>
<p>这自然是我虚构出来的一个例子。不过将这里的主体稍微换一下，便能得到我和某个朋友曾经每天的对话是什么样的（关于这个朋友，我在未来会写篇文章展开说说）。这也是为什么我对这种事如此上心，实在是令人烦躁！按照这些人的逻辑，<strong>只要世界上存在一个更差的情况，所有具体的批评就都失去了意义</strong>。于是，关于问题 A 的任何深入讨论都被扼杀了。</p>
<p>比烂则是一种更消极的攀比。攀比这个行为并不需要比较「好的地方」，比较「烂的地方」也可以，因为攀比的本质是让「他人看到自己」。当一个人在价值上难以企及「最好」时，通过证明自己经历了「最烂」来获得某种独特的优越感或存在感，便成了一条捷径。</p>
<p>这种行为深层次上，呼应了人类对自我身份的寻求。在宏大的网络世界里，个体常常感到渺小，而一个极端的故事，无论是至善还是至恶，都能成为最有效的身份标签。让他人看到自己，也可以回复人们从青少年时期就在思考的问题 —— <em> 我是谁？</em> 于是，最惨的经历也成了一种畸形的资本，通过它，个体得以在嘈杂的舆论场中被看见、被记忆，从而确认「我是谁」。</p>
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